In fashion it was always to put material in value, here I go to other perspectives but with the same material. I go to the end, until the material gives nothing anymore. Making sculptures is a game and it’s fun, it’s free and different from what I usually do. I do not look for where it comes from, they are forms that I do without research. Why am I doing this? Is it really necessary? It’s for me, even if it pinches, even if the material is unpleasant, I do it anyways.